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« Reply #15 on: July 06, 2008, 06:47:12 PM »

Go to the "Post Your Commuting Photo's Here" section and start a thread, there will be an option to upload a photo.

Thanks. I went there but it says the max file size allowed is 528 kb or something like that. My scanned image is 4MB. I don't want to crash the server or something. Is there a way to reduce the file (it's a jpg) size drastically?
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« Reply #16 on: July 07, 2008, 11:23:46 PM »

Thanks to MHNJ on this one -

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« Reply #17 on: July 09, 2008, 12:30:59 AM »

It would help a lot to have stations at Monmouth Jct and North Brunswick, and eliminate Jersey Ave. People in South Brunswick with the train tracks in their backyard currently drive to either Princeton Jct or Jersey Ave, that must be frustrating. The additional stops won't affect express trains from PJ, and it will add a few minutes to trains that express from NB. Jersey Ave can't handle the traffic well, but the proposed North Brunswick station has 2 major roads near it. New Brunswick is clogged with traffic during rush hour, and there's limited parking. There's a garage right under the NB train station that's only for Johnson & Johnson, and the nearest surface parking lot is for Rutgers students. The deck across the street from NB is expensive and fills up fast. Plainsboro doesn't need a train station, it's close to Princeton Jct and Monmouth Jct.. If there were a station in Plainsboro and Monmouth Jct, the train would stop every 3 miles. Having the 2 additional train stations in Monmouth Jct and North Brunswick will reduce a lot of traffic on Route 1.
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« Reply #18 on: July 10, 2008, 11:17:10 PM »

You right JerseyGuy!
The opportunity is there for a new "Metro Park"!  Unlike the Secaucus Mausoleum, this will be used BIGTIME!  When the MOM line fails to go through, maybe NJT could do bus lines to the new, improved "Adams Station".  Do we name it "Todd" after associates or "Woody" after Johnson?

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« Reply #19 on: June 18, 2009, 10:46:35 PM »

Considering the current economic climate, this might be a great idea. I'm surprised they're still considering it.

http://www.mycentraljersey.com/article/20090615/NEWS/906150356/-1/newsfront/North+Brunswick+moves+a+step+closer+to+Route+1+transit+village

North Brunswick moves a step closer to Route 1 transit village

By JARED KALTWASSER • STAFF WRITER • June 15, 2009

 NORTH BRUNSWICK — The township's Route 1 transit village moved a step closer to reality Monday as the Planning Board voted to commission a traffic study.


During a special meeting, the board voted unanimously to request proposals for a traffic consultant to evaluate the proposed Town Center transit village on Route 1.

Township officials view the study as necessary before they will allow developer North Brunswick TOD Associates LLC, a subsidiary of Garden Commercial Properties, to build the first phase of a planned mixed-use development at the 212-acre former Johnson & Johnson property at Route 1 and Aaron Road.

North Brunswick TOD Associates plans to build a mix of retail, office and residential properties around a North Brunswick train station. NJ Transit has yet to commit to build the station, though township officials are optimistic that a station will eventually be built.

In the meantime, North Brunswick TOD Associates wants to begin building parts of the village, most likely four anchor stores and possibly a hotel and restaurant, said Jonathan Frieder, managing partner for the developer. Once the train station and any road improvements are finalized, the rest of the transit village could be built around the existing anchor stores, he said.

"To sustain the property for the future of North Brunswick as an economic engine for North Brunswick, it's very important to keep things moving and that's why the Planning Board is taking it upon themselves to start the process now," Frieder said.

The developer needs the Planning Board's approval because the site is currently zoned for industrial use.

Mayor Francis "Mac" Womack said before anything is built on the site, he believes significant road improvements are necessary to alleviate congestion.

"Route 1 is already at a saturation point and we really can't responsibly talk about putting anything there until we've had a traffic study," Womack said.

Thomas Vigna, the township's principal planner, said in addition to Route 1, other roads that may require upgrades include Route 130, Adams Lane, Cozzens Lane, Finnegans Lane and Commerce Boulevard.

Councilman Bob Davis, a Planning Board member, said the independent traffic study is necessary so township officials can have a holistic view of the traffic impact of the transit village as they consider the first phase.


"We want to make sure that we have this full-blown traffic study so that we're not just talking about Phase One, but we're talking about the complete build of the transit village," Davis said. "And we want to have the traffic study now so that down the road when we start the second phase we don't all of a sudden find out that there are certain priorities or traffic problems or things we did not look at."

Traffic consultants will have until July 10 to submit a proposal.

The Planning Board has yet to finalize how it will pay for the study, but Davis said the board will look to Middlesex County, state and federal funding sources. He also expects the developer to chip in.

"We're sure that TOD Associates will participate in funding it because we don't want the taxpayers to have to pay for this," he said.
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« Reply #20 on: June 22, 2009, 10:58:35 AM »

It would be a perfect place to put a new NJT yard. Six tracks is all you would need, than you could close down Jersey Avenue
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« Reply #21 on: February 04, 2010, 01:18:28 PM »

I'm glad I moved away from this area.  RTE 1 will be a fiasco if this is completed.


North Brunswick moves along with transit village plans
By Ryan Hutchins/For The Star-Ledger
February 02, 2010, 8:30PM



View of the former Johnson & Johnson facility on Rt. 1 in North Brunswick in May 2009. The site is a proposed "transit village" aimed at being a shopping, housing and train transit hub that will reduce the need for automobiles.


NORTH BRUNSWICK -- Millions of dollars in proposed work to Route 1 in North Brunswick – the first step toward preparing for the construction of a possible transit village on a former Johnson & Johnson site – could be considered later this month by the council.

Mayor Francis “Mac” Womack III said the panel is likely to start looking at the road project in two weeks. The work, which would cost more than $7.8 million, would be paid for by developers Prestige and TOD Associates, which also paid for the $100,000 study that recommended the improvements.

The Route 1 work would include changes at several intersections: Aaron Road, Finnagans Lane, Commerce Boulevard and Cozzens Lane.

If the road improvements actually happen, it would mark one of the biggest steps taken toward constructing the mixed-use complex of housing, retail stores and office space.

At this point, the project may still be a pipe-dream, but it seems to be getting increasing attention in North Brunswick. Last week, the township held a meeting with agencies to discuss the future of the transit village, and leaders will hold a public hearing on Feb. 11 to see what the community thinks.

The biggest obstacle is actually getting a station constructed at the site, which is located near the tracks of the Northeast Corridor line. “New Jersey Transit still views it as the right place for a train station,” Womack said. “In every aspect except available financing, it also seems to be the right time. But the Department of Transportation and New Jersey Transit both indicated that obtaining the funds for the project is key.”

Those agencies wouldn’t say as much this week, however. DOT spokesman Joe Dee deferred to Dan Stessel, his counterpart at NJ Transit, who wouldn’t come out for or against having a station there.

“What we conveyed to the community is that it would be physically possible to build a station at that location,” Stessel said.

Building a station there would require support from Amtrak, which uses the Northeast Corridor. Several studies would need to be done, looking at a range of issues from the environmental impact to how a station would change the timing of trains. “It’s feasible.

That said, there’s a great deal of work that would need to take place,” Stessel said.

TOD Associates and Prestige, which is interested in building a BJ’s Wholesale Club on the site, are willing to move forward with the first-phase of the transit village without plans for a train station, Womack said. The first phase includes a hotel, residential units and retail space. A final phase would include additional retail and residential, as well as office space and a park-and-ride facility.

At the public hearing on Feb. 11, the mayor wants to hear from the public. Specifically, Womack said, he wants to know if the community is behind the proposal. That meeting will be at 7 p.m. at in the auditorium of North Brunswick High School.
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« Reply #22 on: April 20, 2010, 10:41:48 PM »

Question:

When is a train station a place that doesn't have to have trains, train tracks or anything to do with trains?

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In New Jersey, of course!  Roll Eyes

Read on to see what I'm babbling about!

http://www.mycentraljersey.com/article/20100420/NEWS/100420078/-1/newsfront/North-Brunswick-transit-village-ordinance-tabled

NORTH BRUNSWICK — A zoning ordinance that would have conditionally allowed a transit village transit village to be built on Route 1 was tabled after a five-hour public hearing that began Monday night and ended at about 12:30 a.m. Tuesday.

Action on the ordinance was postponed so officials could correct the document's definition of “train station.” The intent of the 58-page ordinance was to set conditions whereby developer TOD Associates could build the transit village in two basic phases.

The first phase … which includes 300 housing units, box stores, and the first block of a mixed-use Main Street … could be built if the developer makes roadway improvements to Route 1.

The second phase … which would expand the housing to a total of 1,875 units and finish the Main Street … could be built only if NJ Transit agrees to build a train station on the site, and then only after construction begins on the station.

Hours into the public hearing Monday night, however, Council President Bob Corbin noted a problem which he said could undermine that second stipulation. The problem was with the definition the ordinance used for “train station”, which defined a train station as a facility that provides access “to one or more of the following: passenger rail, light rail, regional bus, bus rapid transit, local bus, taxi or other passenger services.”

“If you read the ordinance by the definition as it was written, that would mean after Phase One you don't really need a train, all you needed to do was have some foundations and you could actually have a taxicab stand there and then it would qualify under the ordinance for the development of those other 1,500 units,’’ Corbin said.

The ordinance will now be amended to make it explicit that the full build-out cannot occur without a train station serviced by NJ Transit.

Michael C. Hritz, the township's director of community development, said because the amendment was deemed “substantive”, the amended ordinance will have to be re-introduced on May 3 and a public hearing and final vote will now be held May 17.

Jonathan Frieder, managing partner for the developer, was not concerned.

“To me, it was an error in drafting the ordinance and we've been working on this for five years and if it takes another month to correct a typo, then so be it,” Frieder said.


Prior to the unanimous decision to table the ordinance, about 65 residents were in attendance to voice their questions, concerns, or support for the measure.

Harvey Needles of Hidden Lakes Drive said the plan was fundamentally flawed because it allows the first phase of a “transit village to be built without any guarantee that the development's key facet – a train station – would ever be built.

“You're doing yourselves a disservice,” Needles told the council. “This reminds me of a movie, ‘Field of Dreams.’ Build it and they will come.”

Charlie Theokas of Woodmere Road, was the first person to voice strong support for the development, saying it would put the largely dormant former Johnson & Johnson site to good use, even if a train station isn't built soon.

“We're in a fiscal challenge, we all know that,” he said. “So we have an opportunity to do something with this 200-plus acres with a minimal risk. I consider 300 units a minimal risk.”

Most who spoke, however, expressed skepticism or opposition to the development. Frieder suggested that the criticism was due to a lack of information about the project and said the residents should trust the Township Council and Planning Board members who have been studying the matter for five years.

“I heard things (Monday) that we've heard off and on over the last five years,”' Frieder said. “There are people that come in and out of the process at different times and it takes people who haven't been following the process longer to catch up with the facts.”

Mayor Francis “Mac” Womack said he still believes NJ Transit wants to build a station on the site and will do so when funding becomes available, but he said the public hearing was valuable.

“I think that some people who felt like the project was not ready yet made sound suggestions and in fact I'm hoping that what they said will be taken very seriously by the board and the professionals in town before the ordinance is re-introduced,” he said.


   
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« Reply #23 on: May 16, 2010, 01:18:11 PM »

For those of you that are interested:

The township's much-debated transit-village ordinance will be up for a final vote Monday when the divided Township Council holds a public hearing on the matter. The meeting is set for 7 p.m. at the municipal building, 710 Hermann Road.

If you have a vested interest in the proceedings, make your opinion known. Remember, this development will affect traffic on RTE 1, RTE 130, and most likely RTE 18.

If you traverse those routes, this plan will affect you!

The entire article:

http://www.mycentraljersey.com/article/20100515/NEWS/100515005/-1/newsfront/North-Brunswick-transit-village-s-plan-at-crossroads
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« Reply #24 on: June 16, 2010, 01:19:25 PM »

Oh boy! There goes the biggest stretch of NJT's system without a train station.  The good(?) news is NJT might not be able to afford this station which will cut down the number of housing units.  Roll Eyes As for Route 1, the state needs to widen the stretch between Aaron Rd and College Rd before this is complete.


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http://nbs.gmnews.com/news/2010-06-17/Front_Page/NB_transit_village_plan_approved.html

N.B. transit village plan approved
Construction could begin in 1 to 2 years for retail, residential spaces
BY JENNIFER AMATO Staff Writer

North Brunswick will see the beginnings of a transitoriented development within the next few years.

On June 10, the Planning Board unanimously approved the preliminary site plan and general development plan to redevelop the 212-acre former Johnson & Johnson site off Route 1.

“We’ve been working on this for more than five years — the council, the Planning Board, the engineers, everybody. I think this is going to be a great, great asset to North Brunswick. I hope I live long enough to take a ride on the train,” said Daniel DiStefano, chairman of the Planning Board.

“It’s a great moment for North Brunswick in its history, in its progress, in its future,” said Jonathan Frieder, managing partner for Garden Homes Development, which owns the property. “I think the more people learn about it and understand it, the more they will come to realize what a monumental opportunity and a great moment this is.”

North Brunswick TOD Associates discussed the plans for the “MainStreetNB” project, consisting of retail, restaurant and residential space and a bus depot, during two four-hour meetings June 8 and June 10.

“We don’t just meet the requirements of a transit village. … North Brunswick is going to have an exemplary transit village that is going to be a model for the state in terms of smart growth and sustainability,” said John Taikina, director of planning and development for Garden Homes Development.

Main Street and the associated piazza have been designed after Piazza Navona in Italy, Metuchen, Palmer Square in Princeton, and Crocker Park in Ohio.

“It’s downtown-type single living,” Taikina said. “We like to think we model spaces that are very prevalent in existing places.”

There will be one-bedroom and two-bedroom units and duplex lofts either in residential buildings or on floors above retail and restaurant space. Taikina said the 300 initial Phase 1 units would most likely be rentals, and the additional 1,575 units, predicated by the approval of a train station, could possibly be for sale.

There will be two freestanding large retail establishments and one large multistory retail establishment; only Costco can be discussed publicly at this time. There will be office space, a hotel and freestanding commercial pads.

“We need to satisfy the demands of large retailers so they are successful stores,” Taikina said of the number of parking spaces needed for the stores, which he said would be broken up by pavement and outdoor areas. “Having successful large retailers is critical to having successful small retailers. … We’re hoping it’s an old-time place with all the modern conveniences.”

In regard to the architecture of all of the buildings, he said, “We are not looking for cookie cutter [plans]; we are looking for a more authentic-type experience.”

There will also be about 67 acres of open space on the property, and spaces that invite community activities such as central areas, outdoor dining and the open piazza.

“That hustle and bustle, that energy, we think is a critical part of the open space,” Taikina said.

There will be a bus depot at the northern end of the property that will have a ticket area, a waiting area and possibly a coffee shop. The bus will make stops at each large retail establishment, two locations on Main Street and regional areas on its way to New York.

The prospective train station project, which will be called “North Brunswick Station at MainStreetNB,” will be discussed in the future pending N.J. Department of Transportation approval.

The station, if approved, would be at the eastern end of Main Street, farthest from Route 1 north. If and when the train station is approved, and then operating, the applicant would be allowed to construct 1,575 more residences and more retail space.

The expected date for the train station is 2017, though the timeframe is dependent upon approval, funds becoming available for the project, and the completion of the ARC (Access to the Region’s Core): Trans-Hudson Passenger Rail Tunnel.

Frieder said that since North Brunswick has done its part to focus on smart growth, place-making and transit-oriented development principles, “the state must now provide transportation that supports this type of zoning.”

If for some reason the train station is not approved, Taikina said there are no plans yet for the rest of the property. However, Main Street “would be a viable, functioning place that will be closed and complete … and function as a downtown.”

Also, any roadway improvements to the surrounding highways, throughways and neighborhood streets would be completed by the development prior to any initial construction of the Phase 1/Main Street project, which traffic engineer Dan Disario said “will provide better traffic operations with Phase 1 and with traffic improvements” than the existing conditions of the roadways.

NJ Transit would be responsible for any additional roadway improvements necessitated by the train station development.

Taikina said there has been no discussion yet about an intratransit village shuttle, but that everything within Main Street is about a three-minute walk, and the entire transit village area is about a five-minute walk.

“It’s 212 acres, but because we literally put all of the activities in the middle, you’re not going very far to any one thing,” Taikina said. Since the idea of limiting vehicular traffic and increasing the smart growth principles of pedestrian and bicycle access, the property will be laden with wide sidewalks, bike paths and multi-use paths. The existing Governor’s Pointe and Renaissance housing developments will be connected to the transit village property to accommodate residents there without the use of a car.

The final site plan application could go before the Planning Board by the end of the year, Frieder said. Initial construction could begin within the next year or so, depending on funding and permits. The developer has 10 years plus two one-year discretionary extensions to begin Phase 1, and 20 years to complete the full buildout of the project.

“We’re really excited about this opportunity. We are going to work very hard to make sure we fulfill the promises our application expressed,” Frieder said.
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